Sunset and deleted scenes

[Deverson]

I’ve been having issues with sunset and deleted scenes. I have a scene with 2 devices. When the scene turned on, either automatically or remotely, two other devices that have never been programmed into that scene come on. As a test I deleted the scene and tried to create a new scene with sunset and 10 pm but I can’t save it as there is a conflict. I have to set things up remotely as I am not onsite.
Thanks in advance!

[lilyoyo1]

Do you have any other scenes or devices using sunset as a start time

[Deverson]

I used to but deleted all scenes and recreated new scenes. But when creating a new scene. It says there s a conflict even though there are no scenes that are created.

[stusviews]

It's too easy for a noob to create unintended links. In a way that's good, the learning curve is easy to navigate. If you have only two errant device, then delete them form the app and after a factory reset, re-add them and start over.

Be sure to follow the factory reset instructions (in the Ownere's Manual), especially not releasing the set button until the beeping stops at the end.

[Deverson]

That’s what I would do if my arms were 1400 miles long. I have to do all programming from Wisconsin.
I know the last couple of updates included fixes for sunset/ sunrise issues..
i just force removed the devices that were causing issues. Well, lights still come on even though they don’t show up on my device list. I removed them from the Alexa app also. I had done that before also.

[lilyoyo1]

Make sure no timers are attached to individual devices. Which ones are turning on together?

[lilyoyo1]

Unfortunately it's hard to really troubleshoot from afar. Most things anyone would have you do requires someone to be at the location.

[Deverson]

I had a porch light come on at 30% bright and garage door lights coming on at sunset. When that scene is turned on my Foyer Two and Bedroom light also come on. If I control the porch or garage door lights manually or remotely, they do not turn on the other 2 lights.

[Deverson]

I was able to force remove my devices, tried the scene and my wife told me they still come on. I had her reboot the hub but getting her to push the set button might be pushing things a bit too much!😏

[lilyoyo1]

Recreate the scene with everything that is coming on together. Once created delete each device one at a time from that scene to make sure they unlink from each other. Also at the device level, make sure that there are no devices that has a timer attached to it individually. The reason I said that is because a friend of mine reused a device a Christmas for his tree. He kept complaining of it still turning on even though he deleted everything. Long story short, he had a timer setup for the tree before he made one for all his christmas lights which kept running.

[Deverson]

What do you mean by “abandon the scene”? I don’t think I ever saw that option.

[Deverson]

As of right now, I have all scenes disabled. I have no visible scenes with a sunset on time. If I try to create a scene using sunset. I get conflict issue. I can’t have more than Scene using a sunset trigger.

[Deverson]

I had previously deleted all scenes that had sunset as a trigger. No timers are set. I cannot delete scenes that are not visible. Between adding, subtracting, and deleting scenes my group number in settings is at 14. Is there a way to delete the used or unused groups groups without a factory reset? I had stated that I only had 2 devices that are on that sunset scene and was told to do a factory reset. However I have about 20 devices in the home that would need to be reinstalled if I reset the hub. Thanks.

[Deverson]

I don’t ever remember setting a schedule on one set of lights, but I must have. All devices now have schedules disabled Now to try a new schedule.
Thank you very much for your time. Not sure if I’m a big fan of the app from Smarthome. Have you used stringify? If so, how do you like it?