PLM Pro

[healeydriver]

contrary to instructions/advice. I decided to plug my PLM into a UPS (battery backup system). Therefore I rely on the RF link to get my PLM connections into the 120v wiring of my house. I am no longer suffering blown PLM's due to powerline glitches, but it is a pain to have eliminated one whole leg of the redundant mesh properties of Insteon because PLM is not robust to voltage surges.....Whatever you do, please make the PLM well protected against voltage spikes on the line. Thanks

[stusviews]

you will see this is now common knowledge and it IS hurting sales.

What is the difference in sales. I haven't been able to find that information anywhere.

[BLH]

If you are electronically inclined or know someone who is.
There is a long thread on the UDI forums on the subject and how we have rebuilt the known power supply problems. To bring them back to life.
http://forum.universal-devices.com/t...-supply-fails/

Smarthome has indicated. Problem components where discovered and starting at hardware 2.3 they have been replaced for better operation.

PLM Pro sound like a good thing. Only time will tell with Richmond Capital Partners now owning Smarthome-Smartlabs, if it may happen.

[wintermute]

PLM Pro please... with emphasis on hardware reliability, robustness and at least an 8-year warranty. These 2413S's keep dying on me and my clients. Insteon is creating a bad name for itself if it continues to produce unreliable hardware. Clients will all migrate to competitors if basic hardware reliability cannot be assured. At least upgrade the capacitors in the current 2413S so they don't die every two years. Google "dead insteon PLM" and you will see this is now common knowledge and it IS hurting sales.

[EVIL Teken]

As I write this, my trusty ISY is rebuilding my system in the background as I move to yet another new PLM due to failure. Of all my feature requests, the lack of increase in link capacity fascinates me the most. In nearly 10 years since the upgrading of PLMs to support about 1000 links there has been no change to that spec.

I find this a bit crazy as without that I have been unable (unwilling) to buy additional Insteon products as I am at capacity on my PLM. I do not have a mansion, and this is in a residential application. I do not understand why the makers of these devices would not increase the link capacity. I do not see how a PLM (at 1000 links) could support a large residential or light commercial installation. Surely users with ISYs purchase more Insteon products that the average user who does not have an ISY (and subsequently a PLM). And as soon as they come out with a unit with more link support, I will buy more stuff...

+1,

This idea has garnered one of the highest *Likes* from the general public. Yet late in 2017 there isn't one sign of this or similar on its way ~ shameful!!! If the new guy who has taken over is to be taken seriously in 2018 the Smartlabs company must push forward by allowing companies like UDI to develop their own for the Insteon brand. Its quite apparent no one here has the common sense and will power to make Insteon the leading Home Automation protocol for the masses.

The minim link capacity should be 5000 links . . . A Pro PLM should offer hundreds of thousands given its 2017 and memory is cheap!!! I'll bet anyone $50.00 bucks this will never see day light or cross an engineer for review and deployment in 2018.

[Illusion]

As I write this, my trusty ISY is rebuilding my system in the background as I move to yet another new PLM due to failure. Of all my feature requests, the lack of increase in link capacity fascinates me the most. In nearly 10 years since the upgrading of PLMs to support about 1000 links there has been no change to that spec.

I find this a bit crazy as without that I have been unable (unwilling) to buy additional Insteon products as I am at capacity on my PLM. I do not have a mansion, and this is in a residential application. I do not understand why the makers of these devices would not increase the link capacity. I do not see how a PLM (at 1000 links) could support a large residential or light commercial installation. Surely users with ISYs purchase more Insteon products than the average user who does not have an ISY (and subsequently a PLM). And as soon as they come out with a unit with more link support, I will buy more stuff...

[EVIL Teken]

I thought of another feature request for this module. But before I add it to the list on the first post, I wanted to know if you guys also wanted it, and if you think it is feasible.

I think it would be good for the PLM Pro to allow for ID cloning. So maybe if you need to replace a failing unit, you would not have to rebuild the entire network of connected devices. So instead of having the Insteon ID tied to the PLM itself, it resides on something like a cell phone's Sim Chip. Then if a PLM Pro failed, you could replace it simply be transferring the ID chip out of the bad one, and put it into the replacement. This would mean that you do not need to update the PLM address in all the devices in the system.

I think this could be really cool for big residential, or light commercial systems with lots of Insteon devices.

Love the idea but the company will never let that happen. This thread has been going on for how long and what has been done on this front?? Nothing, and don't expect to see a Global PLM or UDI's PLM anytime soon either.

Would love to see Smartlabs prove me wrong on all points and would happily leave on my signature I was wrong all day long. But that won't happen so no worries on that count at all.

[EVIL Teken]

For now, I would be glad if I be able to buy a 220v plm one... I would be able to to a lot of things that I can not do right now...

You can do that right now.

[Wosnjuk]

My PLM wish list would be the following:
1. Get rid of the serial connection, go to Ethernet already. This is 2017 after all (or Ethernet & WiFi - but I prefer infrastructure devices to be wired). .
2. Put a minimal web interface on it (and NOT CLOUD BASED) that can at least allow for backup/restore, security, display links and status etc)
3. Have a REST-API interface that we can send commands, query devices, etc - similar to what the ISY has but without all the other ISY capabilities. And again, NOT CLOUD BASED.

Of course, it should be electronically solid and robust. Personally, I've never had a problem with my PLM but I've read enough posts to believe there is a serious quality issue with the devices.

For now, I would be glad if I be able to buy a 220v plm one... I would be able to to a lot of things that I can not do right now...

[stusviews]

A major advantage of the PLM is that is does not require WiFi, Ethernet nor any other external device. Like other Insteon devices, home wiring is all that's required.

[daveslc]

My PLM wish list would be the following:
1. Get rid of the serial connection, go to Ethernet already. This is 2017 after all (or Ethernet & WiFi - but I prefer infrastructure devices to be wired). .
2. Put a minimal web interface on it (and NOT CLOUD BASED) that can at least allow for backup/restore, security, display links and status etc)
3. Have a REST-API interface that we can send commands, query devices, etc - similar to what the ISY has but without all the other ISY capabilities. And again, NOT CLOUD BASED.

Of course, it should be electronically solid and robust. Personally, I've never had a problem with my PLM but I've read enough posts to believe there is a serious quality issue with the devices.

[Illusion]

That is why my thought is to have something that requires physical access to the system. If they have physical access to the system and the set buttons, they can take over your system anyway.

[BLH]

It would also allow someone to clone your PLM's Insteon ID and take over your system.

[Illusion]

I thought of another feature request for this module. But before I add it to the list on the first post, I wanted to know if you guys also wanted it, and if you think it is feasible.

I think it would be good for the PLM Pro to allow for ID cloning. So maybe if you need to replace a failing unit, you would not have to rebuild the entire network of connected devices. So instead of having the Insteon ID tied to the PLM itself, it resides on something like a cell phone's Sim Chip. Then if a PLM Pro failed, you could replace it simply be transferring the ID chip out of the bad one, and put it into the replacement. This would mean that you do not need to update the PLM address in all the devices in the system.

I think this could be really cool for big residential, or light commercial systems with lots of Insteon devices.

[giomania]

Hopefully some day.