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  • sunnywilson09
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    I understand the company has gone back to old (existing) firmware where the ALL ON problem did not exist is being pushed back on to the market to solve this on going problem.

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  • sunnywilson09
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    I understand the company has gone back to old (existing) firmware where the ALL ON problem did not exist is being pushed back on to the market to solve this on going problem.
    Last edited by SeanM; 04-06-2020, 09:11 AM. Reason: removed ad link

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  • BLH
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    There is a new PLM in the FCC Database. It does not have all the features you are pointing out but it is probably the next PLM model released eventually.
    Saw this link on the UDI Forums. For the FCC Database information on the 2234-223 Serial Port and 2234-222 USB PLM. It has a 4000 link database. Universal power supply. Faster speed. Serial version can power an external device with 5VDC at 1Amp

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  • InTheDark
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    The “PLM Pro” should have:

    Bluetooth, WiFi, Zigbee and Z-wave.

    With Bluetooth or WiFi you could use your smartphone to activate linking mode rather than having to push that little button.

    And with WiFi you have the option of forgoing the USB cable to connect to third party devices like the Raspberry Pi.

    With Zigbee and Z-wave it would open the door for easier integration with other products. Having a closed ecosystem only works for Apple.

    Providing Zigbee and Z-wave could entice others to try Insteon.

    Surge and brownout protection

    10k links

    5 year warranty.

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  • Wayneb
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    Good to hear, I can wait to hear, just hope it is not too long before you guys announce all your great new plans and devices, hope there is a big push to up the market share for Insteon.

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  • SteveL
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    There has been a lot of speculation as to what insteon is up to.

    I can confirm that there is a lot going on behind the scenes that I wish I could share publicly now. For anyone that would like to talk to me directly I would be happy to talk to you.

    Just email me your name and phone number.

    slee@insteon.com

    regards,

    Steve Lee
    Insteon

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  • BLH
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    Richmond Capital Partners took over Smatlabs in June of 2017. So far the only thing I have seen is products discontinued. Now that doesn't mean there are not unannounced plans for new Insteon devices in the works.
    They are very protective of the Insteon protocol and I doubt it will ever be shared with others. In the early days of Insteon there where a few companies that where interested with Insteon but it all fell through. Some went to the Z-Wave protocol.

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  • Wayneb
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    Maybe the new owner might be better to deal with, I don't know what has changed since then. I have not added any new Insteon stuff in years but I do have some spares on hand that have not been installed yet. It seems Insteon is still not very well known even though they have been around a long time. If you go to Reddit where the younger crowd hangs out the Home Automation forum has 323K subscribers and the Insteon forum only has 291. I would like to see Insteon technology licensed to other companies so it is not just one manufacturer selling it, Z-wave stuff is everywhere.

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  • BLH
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    After Universal Designs designing their own PLM replacement and having some engineering prototypes to test with.
    Smartlabs reversed their promise to provide the firmware in chips or programming images. The project had to be shelved years ago.
    There designs are solid and we would not have the PLM we are still forced to use.

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  • Wayneb
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    An ISY still needs a PLM to function, something built to a much higher standard designed to last for many years would be one thing, the thread is full of suggestions that people want, I like the idea of being able to upgrade the firmware and also an external antenna should be high on the list.

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  • lilyoyo1
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    What benefit would you get from a plm pro that you already don't have by using the isy?

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  • Wayneb
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    Is anyone still listening to Insteon users? Why isn't there a higher grade Pro PLM yet? I fear Insteon will not last much longer in the market if they don't start taking it more seriously and address the needs and wants of their user base. I have been using Insteon since almost the beginning, I almost dumped it all over the old PLC problems, only switching to an ISY-99i and a PLM setup kept me using Insteon but I had started to switch over to Lutron RadioRA, had it not been so expensive to switch I would have been long gone by now. I have been using Insteon since late January 2006 and if not for UDI and their outstanding ISY controllers I would never recommend Insteon to anybody. I would gladly pay as much for a true Pro grade PLM as I did for my ISY-994i ZWIR.

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  • healeydriver
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    contrary to instructions/advice. I decided to plug my PLM into a UPS (battery backup system). Therefore I rely on the RF link to get my PLM connections into the 120v wiring of my house. I am no longer suffering blown PLM's due to powerline glitches, but it is a pain to have eliminated one whole leg of the redundant mesh properties of Insteon because PLM is not robust to voltage surges.....Whatever you do, please make the PLM well protected against voltage spikes on the line. Thanks

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  • stusviews
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    Originally posted by wintermute View Post
    you will see this is now common knowledge and it IS hurting sales.
    What is the difference in sales. I haven't been able to find that information anywhere.

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  • BLH
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    If you are electronically inclined or know someone who is.
    There is a long thread on the UDI forums on the subject and how we have rebuilt the known power supply problems. To bring them back to life.
    http://forum.universal-devices.com/t...-supply-fails/

    Smarthome has indicated. Problem components where discovered and starting at hardware 2.3 they have been replaced for better operation.

    PLM Pro sound like a good thing. Only time will tell with Richmond Capital Partners now owning Smarthome-Smartlabs, if it may happen.

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