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  • kipplitz
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    Bumping because this is important.

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  • stusviews
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    The only increased funtionality/usability actually mentioned is being able to use the PLM outside the US.

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  • johnmsch
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    Lots of great ideas here! Never considered this before, but I too would be willing to pay extra for increased functionality/usability of the PLM!!!!

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  • Banichi
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    Bumping this thread back up to the top. Hoping that others will see this again and maybe read through the thread and see why it would be so valuable to have a PLM-Pro! All of the bits in the OP are highly valuable features. As an installer, I can say that the lack of these features in the PLM certainly is one thing holding Insteon back from dominating the market.

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  • BLH
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    Sorry if I was vague in my post.

    I was referring to the advance features programming available with an ISY994i over the HUBs easier to use features.
    I have seen folks in other parts of the world. Wanting an ISY994i but can't because of their power line restrictions.
    That would also mean the Insteon RF frequency would have to be changed to the locally allowed frequency.

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  • stusviews
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    What advanced programming would be available from a different voltage/frequency PLM that the current PLM lacks?

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  • BLH
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    Well 120 volt 60 Cycle only PLM's does limit anyone wanting to do more advanced programming with an ISY994i series controller.
    Last edited by BLH; 05-23-2017, 04:19 PM.

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  • stusviews
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    Although I agree that a 222v PLM will be a great addition, considering that virtually all of North and South America as well as pockets around the world, I don't believe that not having a 220v PLM will be the end of Insteon

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  • rjuch
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    cant believe there's still no PLM for 220v .... things are changing fast in the home automation world, Insteon will soon become extinct ...

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  • mig
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    I would second this suggestion. (I'll avoid the reference to "missing link" humor) Having a more robust interface would help with reliability and reputation.

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  • EVIL Teken
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    Originally posted by stusviews View Post
    More than two years have passed. So, I'll vote twice
    As always, thank you for your continued support!

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  • stusviews
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    More than two years have passed. So, I'll vote twice

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  • EVIL Teken
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    Steve,

    Great feedback and much thanks for casting your vote.

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  • SteveSBE
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    I agree that a PLM Pro is needed and it should:

    1. Be upgradable
    2. Utilize WiFi (and other current popular protocols/connectivity).
    3. Have built in protection from unauthorized external access.
    4. Provide a way that other Pro-Level devices to can be plugged in to the PLM Pro in order to easily and externally add additional protocols, connectivity,
    and functions - including the related firmware/software upgrades for those not currently "discovered".
    5. Have robust line protection from both the electrical system, ISY, and for/from the plug-in devices I mentioned above.
    6. Have a minimum 5 year warranty.

    IMHO - Smartlabs needs to do this and more if it wants to stay in business long term (especially for the PLM -- I'm on my 3rd one). In addition their other devices have failed for me too often and they should be evaluating ALL of their products to see what cost-effective improvements could be made to improve their reliability and longevity. Perhaps a low cost improvement could have increased the life of my now defunct SwitchLincs, IoLincs, and PLMs (5 or more of these). As mentioned before they have lost some of my business because of their seeming lack of concern and short warranties. My non-automated switches, outlets, and other similar products have lasted for years and years and since I'm already paying much more for the automated Smartlabs products, I have a similar expectation for them. Reliability and functional flexibility would go a LONG LONG way toward Smartlabs marketing themselves as a customer focused business...and would increase my (an presumably others') business.

    Steve

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  • EVIL Teken
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    Originally posted by Illusion View Post
    I think all the features I mentioned are important, but the link limit of the current offering is the most befuddling to me. I am an early adopter of Insteon. I am a fan of Insteon. I am a serious consumer of Insteon. But I have not been able to buy or add to my system for years now due to the PLM link limit.

    Home automation is one of my few hobbies, and for years now I have had to focus my efforts on existing device upgrades and network integration because any grand expansion plans I come up with are brought to a halt by the PLM link limit. I am simply not going to add an Insteon device to my system if it cannot be managed, viewed, and controlled by my ISY. Period.

    As a result, Smarthome has lost out on thousands of dollars of my money over the last years. While buying a more expensive PLM Pro would be my first purchase, should it exist, it would quickly lead to a renewed Insteon product buying spree. The PLM link limit makes large home and light commercial installations very restricted. I would think this is one of the most lucrative markets for user installed/configurable automation systems. It seems crazy to let these markets look to other solutions over a single specification of a single device like the PLM.
    Agreed, if Smartlabs wants Insteon to be adopted and used in large installations and light commercial venues the link limit needs to be increased to say 3500 - 6000. In 2017 no one can say memory isn't cheap or available for use in any electronic product. As I noted in another thread the PLM Pro should offer real world diagnostics from hop count, round robin, TX / RX error, packet collisions, etc.

    Also, the engineers should really consider incorporating other protocols and connectivity: WiFi, BLE, Z-Wave, ZigBee

    Offering a bridge product will keep the door open for those already invested in other home automation products.

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