Problem Linking Open/Close Sensor 2843-222 to Micro On/Off 2443-222

[Frank002]

I am trying to link an Open/Close Sensor 2843-222 as a controller to a Micro On/Off 2443-222 as a responder.

I am using the Micro On/Off without any attached switch, simply to open or close the circuit through the controller.

I would like the Micro On/Off module to be in OFF mode when the Open/Close Sensor is in the Closed state (when magnet is within ½). I know that the closed state of the sensor is reflected as an ON condition in ISY.

Although I can apparently (at least to some extent, subject to some questions) link the two devices so that the Micro On/Off module is in ON mode when the Open/Close Sensor is in the Closed state, despite repeated attempts I cannot do it the other way around. Is there something about these two devices that makes it impossible to do it the other way around as I would prefer?

I am following these instructions from the Manual:

Make Micro Module a Responder (Set button)
Note: you must perform these steps before reinstalling the wall switch, outlet or fixture.
1) Press and hold controller Set button until it beeps
Controller LED will start blinking
You will have four minutes to complete the next steps before linking mode times out
2) Adjust load connected to Micro module to desired brightness level (even off)
3) Press and hold Micro module Set button until it double-beeps
Controller will double-beep and its LED will stop blinking
4) Test link by tapping controller button on and off
Load connected to Micro module will respond appropriately

BTW, I realize that I would be able to create a program in the ISY to effect this result, but I do not want to do so because this is intended to serve as a failsafe irrespective of the ISY.

Thanks in advance for any assistance you can provide.

[SeanM]

Just to reiterate, when the door sensor is closed, magnets together, you want the micro module to be off (red LED) ? That sounds like normal operation. The reverse of the micro module going ON when the sensor is closed, or micro going OFF when sensor is opened would present issues since Insteon removed that ability from their FW years ago.

Probably best to factory reset both devices if you have been attempting linking in various states before you move on.

1. Turn ON the micro module first, so the LED is green.
2. Next, separate the magnet portion from the main portion of the door sensor.
3. Then, put the door sensor into linking mode by pressing and holding down its set button for ~3 seconds.
4. Finally, go to the micro module and press and hold its set button (~3 seconds) until it links to the sensor.

If those steps do not work please let the group know.

*note: for the door sensor, if the magnet is in the closed position (magnets together), that should show as "Off" in the ISY. If you see "ON" there might be something going on in the ISY settings, or you might have an older door sensor that still responds to the internal jumper. That jumper would need to be on both pins.

[Jack587]

Remove and replace the battery, then use New Insteon Device, then put in the address of the sensor, put the sensor into linking mode by holding the button down for about 5 seconds, the hit OK

[Nevarez562]

I have tried linking using both the Quick Start Guide and the standard approach for the ISY. Neither works. Using the Guide a tap of the sensor’s set button produces neither a flash of the sensor LED nor a flash of the LED of a dual-band device only inches from the sensor. Using the standard approach for the ISY and holding the set button for several seconds never produces a flash of the sensor LED. In other words, I can never get into linking mode using either approach. I have removed and replaced the battery 3 times.


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[lilyoyo1]

The quick start guide is for manually linking insteon devices to each other. Since you are using the isy, you should follow the instructions for linking devices in the isy wiki.

https://wiki.universal-devices.com/i...anagement_Menu

[SeanM]

I have tried linking using both the Quick Start Guide and the standard approach for the ISY. Neither works. Using the Guide a tap of the sensor’s set button produces neither a flash of the sensor LED nor a flash of the LED of a dual-band device only inches from the sensor. Using the standard approach for the ISY and holding the set button for several seconds never produces a flash of the sensor LED. In other words, I can never get into linking mode using either approach. I have removed and replaced the battery 3 times.

Generally, after pressing down and holding a sensor's set button for 3-5 seconds and letting go, the proper behavior is that the device's LED should be flashing indicating it went into linking mode. If it is not doing that, it could mean the PIR was disabled, the device is in programming lock, or the motion sensor is faulty, or a combination of.

It sounds like you have tried troubleshooting this so I would recommend contacting support and get a replacement, if still under warranty, and save your sanity.