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This is refreshing to see. Letter from CEO
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Originally posted by eagle77 View PostI also like that they are focusing their efforts on what they can do well. I'd rather see them focus on making the Insteon protocol an industry standard, used by many vendors and products, rather than try to compete, for example, with Ecobee or Nest on thermostats.
Maybe the new owners will be better but I presently have doubts on Insteon in it present state being adopted by other manufacturers.
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I've been using Insteon products for the past few years with some devices connected to a HUB 2 and everything else connected to a Hub Pro. Despite issues with HomeKit and HD cameras that never really worked like I thought they should, overall experience hasn't been awful. I mean I've definitely had more issues with Insteon products than I have any other group (Hue, iDevices, Casseta, Honeywell, August or Logitech), but I also have many more Insteon devices than any other group and most every problem I've had (except the cameras) was the result of the Hubs or software. I read the open letter from the CEO of Insteon earlier this year and was so excited. Still am for the most part. Then I saw the press release from Apple, Google and Amazon last week and was even more excited. A standard protocol for home automation allowing devices to easily integrate into any of the ecosystems was like a dream come true for a home automation enthusiast. What was missing? Oh yeah, Insteon. Where was Insteon in the alliance? I know Insteon operates on it's own standard, but what does it mean for Insteon and other players going forward? Are they going to get shut out of working with Amazon, Google and Apple? If so, that can't be good for them, right? I'm not sure if there's a question in here that anyone can answer. I'm just curious and a little worried for all the Insteon users.
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A lot of fanfare about an update then a lot of nothing and a lot of delays. Was easy to predict. They used some crap common dev platform thinking that would save time and money between iOS and Android. That never works and the tools always drop to the least common denominator and break down when you get down to what you really need to do in the app. Given the delays it's pretty obvious. On a more important note I couldn't agree more. Insteon, while a solid product technically, is missing the partnership boat big time. If I were to do it again I would have gone a different route.
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Is there any alternatives to the weak spot in the Insteon Hub that fail's yearly! This just to much Thinking of dumping all the Insteon Problems and moving to something else been without a hub since Christmas not Happy wanted to expand system but Insteon does not appear to be a path forward! Too bad lot of money wasted in a dead end product line. Poor customer support.
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The ISY994i is another controller of Insteon. With more bells and whistles over the entry level HUB.
I wounder if anyone has tried a Smartenit Harmony P2 Gateway with the optional 2412U PLM. That does not have all the issues the 2413 has. Though the latest V2.5 2413 has improvement in it. It can do X10, Insteon and ZigBee
As for new products. Maybe 2020 may have some new ones. Possibly announced in one of the Automation Shows.Last edited by BLH; 01-01-2020, 04:07 PM.
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Originally posted by jhdick01 View PostI've been using Insteon products for the past few years with some devices connected to a HUB 2 and everything else connected to a Hub Pro. Despite issues with HomeKit and HD cameras that never really worked like I thought they should, overall experience hasn't been awful. I mean I've definitely had more issues with Insteon products than I have any other group (Hue, iDevices, Casseta, Honeywell, August or Logitech), but I also have many more Insteon devices than any other group and most every problem I've had (except the cameras) was the result of the Hubs or software. I read the open letter from the CEO of Insteon earlier this year and was so excited. Still am for the most part. Then I saw the press release from Apple, Google and Amazon last week and was even more excited. A standard protocol for home automation allowing devices to easily integrate into any of the ecosystems was like a dream come true for a home automation enthusiast. What was missing? Oh yeah, Insteon. Where was Insteon in the alliance? I know Insteon operates on it's own standard, but what does it mean for Insteon and other players going forward? Are they going to get shut out of working with Amazon, Google and Apple? If so, that can't be good for them, right? I'm not sure if there's a question in here that anyone can answer. I'm just curious and a little worried for all the Insteon users.
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The original app, Insteon for Hub, is available for iOS and Android, and there is a public beta for the newer that you can sign up for:
https://www.insteon.com/ima-beta/signup
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It’s seems to me the lack of development of software is not due to the choice of development platform. I believe it could more a timing issue. Instead of opening up on an open source platform, the code is stifled by tight constraints.
If Insteon does not shift its model of distribution, marketing or software development, in addition to bringing awareness / education of homeowners of what it means to automate a home, Insteon will lose its market share to the big switch, lightbulb manufacturers that embraced home automation. These companies have a wider, large distribution already in place.Share Science - Share Knowledge - Share Kindness
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