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  • 3 Way Switches in Scenes

    I have 4 pairs of 3 way switches for 4 light strings that I want to use for various scenes. I linked them locally as opposed to using the hub (which requires to create a scene to pair which doesn’t make sense). When creating a scene do I need to add all 8 devices or just 1 from each pair. I tried just the 1 from each pair as both controller and responder but it seems like the other device led indicator doesn’t respond. Does it matter if I use the switch that actually controls the lights vs the one that doesn’t.? When I use the switches normally, by themselves, the other switch in the pair responds accordingly so I know they are linked.

  • #2
    If you linked all of them with the Set Button on the switches and not the HUB.
    They will only follow each others local paddle activation's.
    Turning On or Off one in the setup with the HUB. Will only control that switch not all in the locally linked set.
    I don't use the HUB so someone else will have to tell you the proper steps.

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    • #3
      You add each switch to its corresponding scene using the "both" option. As BLH stated you would then control the scene itself rather than the individual switch.

      When you use the switch locally they all respond since they are linked. Controlling the individual switch from the app will only control that switch

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      • #4
        INSTEON devices are designed to be versatile, not just 3-way replacements. Most modules can participate in over 400 different scenes, with a different reaction in each.

        To support that versatility, and to avoid circular logic problems, you link each controller directly to each responder directly. The on level/ramp rate is selectable for each link. You might program your three-way arrangement so that tapping either switch turns both on to 70% over 2 seconds, and at the same time you might have an Away button near the front door that turns them both off, and at the same time you might have a Nightlight scene scheduled to dim all the lights to 10% around bedtime.

        You’ll need to control scenes any time you want one command to affect multiple devices at once. Add the scene to Favorites or another room any time you want to be able to control scenes and adjust individual devices from one spot.

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        • #5
          Thanks all for the comments. It seems like an opportunity for Insteon here is to create a "group" of switches and have them all react the same way. That way you only have to include a single switch from that group in the scene as opposed to having to add all of them.

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          • TFitzpatri8
            TFitzpatri8 commented
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            They could do that, but then you could never swap out just one switch or swap it for a keypad the way you can with the existing design.

          • stusviews
            stusviews commented
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            A Insteon "group" is actually a scene. In fact, Inston used to call a scene a group.

        • #6
          [QUOTE=ccspitzer;n101823]Thanks all for the comments. It seems like an opportunity for Insteon here is to create a "group" of switches and have them all react the same way. That way you only have to include a single switch from that group in the scene as opposed to having to add all of them. [/QUOTE]

          In addition to what's already been said, if Insteon did as you envision, you would be greatly limiting your options in regards to controlling your devices.

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