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  • Cloud backups of Hub

    I was surprised to see that the Hub does not have an accessible Backup/Restore option.

    it seems like this should be an easy enhancement to the cloud feature. One should be able to backup all their devices & scenes to the cloud, and restore these onto a new hub should the Hub require replacement.

    I recently switched from ISY to Hub, and had to hard-reset & re-linc every device in the house. ISY networks get complicated quickly, especially when you use KeypadLincs and remotes. It would be awesome if there was a way to preserve these configurations across hardware iterations.

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    The Hub is already backed up to the cloud, automatically. When you add the app to another phone or tablet, it synchronizes with that cloud backup so you can see all the devices, scenes and schedules you already created.

    The challenge is different if you need to change Hub hardware. The Hub was designed to be an inexpensive device, and one way they accomplished that was by keeping things simple. The Hub app doesn't actually read or edit device link databases the way other, more expensive solutions do, it essentially just taps or presses the Set button remotely and allows devices to link themselves. That means it has no way to read preexising device relationships, no way to know about or delete links from other controllers, and no way to tell devices to 'stop sending signals to old hub xx.yy.zz', not without a major rewrite of the Hub app The simple solution is, as you described, to factory-reset existing modules and start from scratch. Another option that would help in case of a Hub failure would be for Insteon support to custom-build a replacement Hub that had the same six digit device address as the one being removed from service, then there would be no need to remove the old links from the rest of your modules.

    For what it is worth, more expensive controllers like the ISY support local backup and restore, easy device replacement, link table editing and restoration, plus a bunch of handy troubleshooting tools.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by chicagoandy View Post
      I recently switched from ISY to Hub, and had to hard-reset & re-linc every device in the house. ISY networks get complicated quickly, especially when you use KeypadLincs and remotes. It would be awesome if there was a way to preserve these configurations across hardware iterations.
      Why did you change from ISY to hub to control your system. I'm finding that the hub is very limited in what you can do and I'm looking at going the other way and add a ISYlike to hear your reasoning.

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      • #4
        Take a look at the home remotes backup and restore feature , truly innovative . The designer is what insteon needs as well

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        • #5
          Homeseers plugin is much more useful than the insteon app. Not sure why other 3rd party apps and plugins are better than insteon.

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          • #6
            Because they are designed for different markets. Cost comes into the equation as well.

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            • #7

              Insteon should be including this functionality in there own software no?

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              • #8
                I admit that it would be nice but you can't expect much from an 80 dollar controller. You wouldn't buy a Dodge dart expecting Mercedes S600 features would you? If you want higher end features you need to go for higher end controllers. 80 bucks only goes so far

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                • #9
                  Lets hope 7 million gets better software.

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                  • #10
                    or purchase the right products that would fit your needs

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                    • #11
                      Smartlabs will become a much better company with a 7 million dollar investment and will help the Insteon product line become more competitive in a fast growing market.
                      Insteon has become stagnant and left behind in a sense, have you read the app reviews ? There pretty much all terrible. So yes we can all go out and spend lots of money on all kinds of different products to fit our needs this is true, but where do we draw the line? Insteon has finally taken the necessary steps to become more innovative in a very complicated smarthome world.

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                      • #12
                        An ISY works wonders with Insteon. So does Homeseer and other software. You really can't expect much from an $80 product.
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                        • #13
                          I don't use the hub as it doesn't fit my needs. I use the ISY which gives me everything I'm looking for and more.

                          I learned long ago that you get what you pay for. As such I wouldn't spend 80 bucks on any controller hoping and expecting great things out of it.

                          Case in point since you think insteon is so far behind, none of the cheap hub's offer backup configurations. There simply isn't enough money made to throw in to many features.

                          Where do we draw the line? The line ends where we feel our money is fits best. Sometimes that means investing instead of settling. You deciding on going as cheap as possible means you get as little as given. Instead of comparing a cheap item to a more expensive item and then complaining about it not being the same, get the right item for your needs

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                          • #14
                            Insteon will soon give more bang for your buck, just wait and see I have faith.
                            No need to over analyze.

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                            • #15
                              I'm sure they will....along with the price to match. It definitely won't be with the hub

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