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  • Looking to install switches in new construction

    I had a few questions i thought id ask before taking the plunge and buying a bunch of switches.

    Building a new home and want to install these switches throughout the house to be able to control the lights.

    I have a bunch of 3 way switches.

    -If I wanted the circuit to dim, do i need 2 dimmer switches, or can you use one dimmer and one standard on-off?

    -Do all the switches need to be an insteon switch in a 3 way configuration? or can you just add one to be able to remote control the circuit?

    -In the software to program the zones, can you create groups? for example i have 3 light switches in the bedroom, i want them all off. Can i tell "Alexa" turn off bedroom and all 3 switches turn off?

  • #2
    Originally posted by infinkc View Post
    I have a bunch of 3 way switches.

    -If I wanted the circuit to dim, do i need 2 dimmer switches, or can you use one dimmer and one standard on-off?
    All the switches have to be INSTEON compatible. The device connected to the load would have to be a dimmer, and the load has to be dimmable. The advantage of sticking with dimmers as secondary controllers is that they don’t make the quiet ‘click’ on and off the way relay-style devices do.

    -Do all the switches need to be an insteon switch in a 3 way configuration?
    All control points have to be INSTEON compatible. You can bypass old mechanical switches if you no longer need them to be a control point. You can also add control points at locations without wiring using Mini Remotes.

    -In the software to program the zones, can you create groups? for example i have 3 light switches in the bedroom, i want them all off. Can i tell "Alexa" turn off bedroom and all 3 switches turn off?
    Yes. You’d create and name the INSTEON scene “Bedroom” and add your three devices, then you could ask Alexa to control the scene all at once or request adjustments to individual devices.

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    • #3
      Since it is new.
      Make sure there is a Neutral power connection in all the switch locations. All Insteon switches except the Two Wire model for incandescent bulbs only. Need a Neutral.
      Deep electrical boxes are also best. Easiest to get the wiring done with some room and not a tough squeeze.

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      • #4
        1) all must be insteon
        2) you can remove the second switch cap off the wires and control the light from only the main location, and from anywhere else via alexa, or phone app or a remote button/switch.
        3) there are a few ways you can create the scene in insteon app and alexa will usually find it, but you can also group the lights together in the alexa app and control it that way. alexa does see intern created scenes but insteon app does not see alexa created scenes.

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        • #5
          One thing I would add is to make sure you protect your switches like you do your other electronics. Install a whole house surge protector on your panel at a minimum. I also use a meter surge protector as well

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          • #6
            thanks everyone for the replies. This helps a lot. We are having the home wired as it were without these switches incase we go a different route.

            So far these seem to be the ones im leaning to. Just hoping they dont loose connectivity.

            Last question's at the moment.

            How is all the information stored on what controls what? Is it in the switches? I dont want to rely on having internet for my lighting to work.
            Do i need a hub to program the 8 button multi switch to setup scenes? does that 8 button switch work without the hub?
            Is the hub only for remote controlling via lan/wan?
            Last edited by infinkc; 03-23-2018, 01:48 PM.

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            • #7
              All INSTEON device relationships (“links”) are stored locally, in each switch/module/bulb. If the internet goes down, you only lose the bridge to internet-connected devices/services, module to module links still work for local control.

              You don’t “need”a Hub to program KeypadLincs, but it makes the process considerably easier.
              Last edited by TFitzpatri8; 03-23-2018, 03:11 PM.

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              • #8
                While you don't need a hub to get your system going you'll wish you had 1 after a few switches. I would go with the ISY since you are installing Insteon in your whole house. While there is a learning curve with it, you'll be much happier long term than using the Insteon hub itself.. it's much much more capable than the hub (did I say much more).

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by lilyoyo1 View Post
                  While you don't need a hub to get your system going you'll wish you had 1 after a few switches. I would go with the ISY since you are installing Insteon in your whole house. While there is a learning curve with it, you'll be much happier long term than using the Insteon hub itself.. it's much much more capable than the hub (did I say much more).
                  Looked into the ISY, but there is a charge for Alexa services. Would you be able to use the Insteon hub and the ISY together?

                  How much better is the ISY than the HUB? just gives you more flexibility? WHat cant i do with the Insteon Hub?

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                  • #10
                    Timed events such as , turn off after 5 min, but most of all conditionals, for example If this, Then do that, Else do something different. You can include Waits in programs, too, and also Repeats. Much more.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by infinkc View Post

                      Looked into the ISY, but there is a charge for Alexa services. Would you be able to use the Insteon hub and the ISY together?

                      How much better is the ISY than the HUB? just gives you more flexibility? WHat cant i do with the Insteon Hub?
                      There is a 2 year subscription for their portal which costs 50 bucks for the first 2 years. This allows you to connect to Alexa, Google home, iffy and remote access of your ISY. You also get the network module with it which allows you to integrate additional network based devices such as hue bulbs.

                      With you just starting out, I would not recommend using the ISY and hub together (though it can be done). Once you know the in and out of Insteon, you can start using another controller should you choose. I personally feel you are better off investing in 1 system and doing things properly over taking short cuts to save time/money.

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